The saga continues over the fate of the so called Johnson Amendment—a provision in the U.S. tax code that prohibits tax exempt houses of worship from endorsing political candidates. What would greater political involvement mean for American churches, and what are the potential benefits and risks? And why has the Seventh day Adventist Church historically taken a somewhat different approach than many other Protestant denominations in the United States? This episode was recorded on Nov. 25, 2025. Article | "Divine Endorsements," Liberty magazine (September October 2025) https://www.libertymagazine.org//article/divine endorsements Article | "Preaching Politics," Liberty magazine (January February 2025) https://www.libertymagazine.org//article/preaching politics Article | "The Johnson Amendment and the First Amendment A No Nonsense Protection" (January February 2018) https://www.libertymagazine.org//article/the johnson amendment and the first amendment a no nonsense protection Guests: Todd McFarland, General Counsel, General Conference of Seventh day Adventists Orlan Johnson, Director, Public Affairs and Religious Liberty, Seventh day Adventistst Church in North America